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		<title>By: ydylayi</title>
		<link>http://saiun.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/saiunkoku-5/#comment-51</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: O_O</title>
		<link>http://saiun.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/saiunkoku-5/#comment-50</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Strangely  I like the idea of Jyuusan hime x Ryuuki and Shuurei being Ryuuki&#039;s Prime minister and perhaps his lover :D (not unheard off ) lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strangely  I like the idea of Jyuusan hime x Ryuuki and Shuurei being Ryuuki&#8217;s Prime minister and perhaps his lover <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  (not unheard off ) lol</p>
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		<title>By: Byakko</title>
		<link>http://saiun.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/saiunkoku-5/#comment-49</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not saying she doesn&#039;t have romantic feelings for Ryuuki, just that they were not developed as far as they could have on their first meeting.

Also, exactly how does it being a &#039;light novel&#039; define its direction? I&#039;m not sure, because I&#039;ve never considered any other Japanese novel, so I&#039;m not sure of how they class and define &#039;em.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying she doesn&#8217;t have romantic feelings for Ryuuki, just that they were not developed as far as they could have on their first meeting.</p>
<p>Also, exactly how does it being a &#8216;light novel&#8217; define its direction? I&#8217;m not sure, because I&#8217;ve never considered any other Japanese novel, so I&#8217;m not sure of how they class and define &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: worldserpent@livejournal</title>
		<link>http://saiun.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/saiunkoku-5/#comment-48</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, as far as I can figure out, currently from Ryuuki&#039;s side, the closest he comes to being interested in anyone but Shuurei is Jyuusan-hime.

Eh, from as I see it, it&#039;s like even if she *did* like Ryuuki that way, and I think it is interpretable that she partially does, she still isn&#039;t going to marry him. So it doesn&#039;t really seem to be a question of whether she loves him that way or not, really, but a question of what kind of life she wants; so I tend to think that even if she did, she would still renounce it.

I just really don&#039;t know what the author is going to do. A lot of it has to do with stuff that is so far really unclear in the plot. If it weren&#039;t a light novel, I would think that it might end with Ryuuki/Jyuusan-hime, and Shuurei becoming a later Prime Minister of Ryuuki&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as far as I can figure out, currently from Ryuuki&#8217;s side, the closest he comes to being interested in anyone but Shuurei is Jyuusan-hime.</p>
<p>Eh, from as I see it, it&#8217;s like even if she *did* like Ryuuki that way, and I think it is interpretable that she partially does, she still isn&#8217;t going to marry him. So it doesn&#8217;t really seem to be a question of whether she loves him that way or not, really, but a question of what kind of life she wants; so I tend to think that even if she did, she would still renounce it.</p>
<p>I just really don&#8217;t know what the author is going to do. A lot of it has to do with stuff that is so far really unclear in the plot. If it weren&#8217;t a light novel, I would think that it might end with Ryuuki/Jyuusan-hime, and Shuurei becoming a later Prime Minister of Ryuuki&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Byakko</title>
		<link>http://saiun.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/saiunkoku-5/#comment-47</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, it isn&#039;t for yaoi. But I&#039;ve been thinking that there should be some indication of Ryuuki&#039;s bisexuality in the novels, as a reminder at the very least, and most likely it would be around Shuuei.

And Shuurei refusing to define her feelings for Ryuuki? I don&#039;t know, from your summary, I actually accept her explanation, which I take it is basically telling Ryuuki, &quot;I&#039;m sorry, but we can still be friends!&quot;

That&#039;s a saaaad situation, but anyway, I think she defined it quite well. Basically, that her feelings regarding Ryuuki is more of a &#039;little brother&#039;.

All things considered, since Ryuuki obviously has a &#039;surrogate mother/sister&#039; complex around Shuurei anyway, that really isn&#039;t surprising. Doesn&#039;t help that, you know, her first impression of you is that of a gay man which pretty much nips any romantic feelings on her part in the bud anyway.

Honestly, why do guys think that&#039;s a good idea *rolls eyes*. And yes, I&#039;ve come across a real life example of a situation like this, if you can believe that (thankfully, it didn&#039;t happen to me, but a guy friend of mine, who is excessively girly but pretty much swears to be straight, tried this same stunt on a girl he likes. Idiot, absolute IDIOT.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it isn&#8217;t for yaoi. But I&#8217;ve been thinking that there should be some indication of Ryuuki&#8217;s bisexuality in the novels, as a reminder at the very least, and most likely it would be around Shuuei.</p>
<p>And Shuurei refusing to define her feelings for Ryuuki? I don&#8217;t know, from your summary, I actually accept her explanation, which I take it is basically telling Ryuuki, &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, but we can still be friends!&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a saaaad situation, but anyway, I think she defined it quite well. Basically, that her feelings regarding Ryuuki is more of a &#8216;little brother&#8217;.</p>
<p>All things considered, since Ryuuki obviously has a &#8216;surrogate mother/sister&#8217; complex around Shuurei anyway, that really isn&#8217;t surprising. Doesn&#8217;t help that, you know, her first impression of you is that of a gay man which pretty much nips any romantic feelings on her part in the bud anyway.</p>
<p>Honestly, why do guys think that&#8217;s a good idea *rolls eyes*. And yes, I&#8217;ve come across a real life example of a situation like this, if you can believe that (thankfully, it didn&#8217;t happen to me, but a guy friend of mine, who is excessively girly but pretty much swears to be straight, tried this same stunt on a girl he likes. Idiot, absolute IDIOT.)</p>
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		<title>By: worldserpent@livejournal</title>
		<link>http://saiun.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/saiunkoku-5/#comment-46</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really have no idea. I think it violates the formula, but if it&#039;s the last book, she can then say to the fans, nyah nyah, I can do whatever I want! The other thing, is that it&#039;s not like she has introduced any highly plausible rivals to Ryuuki, romantically speaking.

Honestly, I&#039;ve read the novels, and they&#039;re quite evasive. Read the volume eleven summary, the part where Shuurei refuses to define her feelings for Ryuuki. As I see it, she may like him that way, but she isn&#039;t going to, for various reasons, try to get with him.

It depends what you consider homosexual overtones? If you want evidence to write yaoi fanfic, by all means, there is a lot:  more than enough. A lot of the things Ryuuki and Shuuei say can definitely be taken in that light, and are in fact, easier to take in that light, to the point where Ryuuki remarks on it. But, actually, because they remark on it, and it&#039;s kind of done knowingly, speaking personally, I read their relationship as almost brotherly (Shuuei at one point says that Ryuuki is more like his little brother than Ryuuren), or as a devoted lord-retainer relationship. (Just my personal interpretation.) So it&#039;s really... yeah, I think the author is definitely making it intense to the point that you can have that kind of interpretation, though. (man, I really must work on vol 12)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really have no idea. I think it violates the formula, but if it&#8217;s the last book, she can then say to the fans, nyah nyah, I can do whatever I want! The other thing, is that it&#8217;s not like she has introduced any highly plausible rivals to Ryuuki, romantically speaking.</p>
<p>Honestly, I&#8217;ve read the novels, and they&#8217;re quite evasive. Read the volume eleven summary, the part where Shuurei refuses to define her feelings for Ryuuki. As I see it, she may like him that way, but she isn&#8217;t going to, for various reasons, try to get with him.</p>
<p>It depends what you consider homosexual overtones? If you want evidence to write yaoi fanfic, by all means, there is a lot:  more than enough. A lot of the things Ryuuki and Shuuei say can definitely be taken in that light, and are in fact, easier to take in that light, to the point where Ryuuki remarks on it. But, actually, because they remark on it, and it&#8217;s kind of done knowingly, speaking personally, I read their relationship as almost brotherly (Shuuei at one point says that Ryuuki is more like his little brother than Ryuuren), or as a devoted lord-retainer relationship. (Just my personal interpretation.) So it&#8217;s really&#8230; yeah, I think the author is definitely making it intense to the point that you can have that kind of interpretation, though. (man, I really must work on vol 12)</p>
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		<title>By: Byakko</title>
		<link>http://saiun.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/saiunkoku-5/#comment-45</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I honestly won&#039;t put it past the author (goddamit I HAVE to remember her name!) to ultimately make it so Ryuuki and Shuurei don&#039;t get together. It&#039;ll be a nice &#039;twist&#039; to the typical bishoujo main pairing ideal, and one that would be kind of refreshing, if a bit disappointing for the romantics (me included, but I can get over it XD)

Then again, Ryuuki obviously still holds a torch for Shuurei, and as for Shuurei...considering that I&#039;d only be able to analyze her character if I could literally read the novel, I guess I can&#039;t deduce anything on her relationship to Ryuuki at all, except that I thought in Vol. 12, she at least, was really quite distressed when she saw Ryuuki unconscious (presuming he was hurt/dead?).

Btw, I just saw a pretty funny scene in Episode 35 XD Regarding Ryuuki and Shuuei. The scene that is so absolute BI X3 Ryuuki &#039;holding back&#039; and &#039;controlling himself&#039; for Shuurei&#039;s sake XDDDD

But honestly, is there any homosexual overtones between Shuuei and Ryuuki in the novel? Besides of course that he&#039;s a close adviser and friend, but personally, I just think there&#039;s unresolved tension. Well, not necessarily unresolved, but there IS tension IMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly won&#8217;t put it past the author (goddamit I HAVE to remember her name!) to ultimately make it so Ryuuki and Shuurei don&#8217;t get together. It&#8217;ll be a nice &#8216;twist&#8217; to the typical bishoujo main pairing ideal, and one that would be kind of refreshing, if a bit disappointing for the romantics (me included, but I can get over it XD)</p>
<p>Then again, Ryuuki obviously still holds a torch for Shuurei, and as for Shuurei&#8230;considering that I&#8217;d only be able to analyze her character if I could literally read the novel, I guess I can&#8217;t deduce anything on her relationship to Ryuuki at all, except that I thought in Vol. 12, she at least, was really quite distressed when she saw Ryuuki unconscious (presuming he was hurt/dead?).</p>
<p>Btw, I just saw a pretty funny scene in Episode 35 XD Regarding Ryuuki and Shuuei. The scene that is so absolute BI X3 Ryuuki &#8216;holding back&#8217; and &#8216;controlling himself&#8217; for Shuurei&#8217;s sake XDDDD</p>
<p>But honestly, is there any homosexual overtones between Shuuei and Ryuuki in the novel? Besides of course that he&#8217;s a close adviser and friend, but personally, I just think there&#8217;s unresolved tension. Well, not necessarily unresolved, but there IS tension IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: worldserpent@livejournal</title>
		<link>http://saiun.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/saiunkoku-5/#comment-44</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mmm, uh... I would say for that part, read my summaries of volume eight. There&#039;s also another short story which addresses that matter, but I haven&#039;t read it yet.

Ryuuki really does behave in a more attempting-to-please way than Sakujun though. However, later in the novels, the relationship between Shuurei and Ryuuki seems far more like normal friends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm, uh&#8230; I would say for that part, read my summaries of volume eight. There&#8217;s also another short story which addresses that matter, but I haven&#8217;t read it yet.</p>
<p>Ryuuki really does behave in a more attempting-to-please way than Sakujun though. However, later in the novels, the relationship between Shuurei and Ryuuki seems far more like normal friends.</p>
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		<title>By: nemikitan</title>
		<link>http://saiun.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/saiunkoku-5/#comment-43</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But, since it required specialized knowledge, it seems likely that Sakujun’s grandmother and mother (who were from the main line and thus resented their husbands), who were wastrels, probably did not come up with the idea themselves. However, again there is no hard evidence linking this to Sakujun. I can’t remember whether this was in the anime or not, but it seems beforehand.&quot; - this was in the anime.

Sakujun is probably quite mysterious as a character. I doubt he will come back. From what I&#039;ve seen in the second series (anime), the Jyasenkyou cult&#039;s leader&#039;s name is Senya. Moreover, I think that Shuurei needed that wake up call but I still find it odd that she continuously treats Ryuuki as a child. There is no way she could have done so with Sakujun. It&#039;s probably the familiarity which exists between Ryuuki and her which makes her treat him like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But, since it required specialized knowledge, it seems likely that Sakujun’s grandmother and mother (who were from the main line and thus resented their husbands), who were wastrels, probably did not come up with the idea themselves. However, again there is no hard evidence linking this to Sakujun. I can’t remember whether this was in the anime or not, but it seems beforehand.&#8221; &#8211; this was in the anime.</p>
<p>Sakujun is probably quite mysterious as a character. I doubt he will come back. From what I&#8217;ve seen in the second series (anime), the Jyasenkyou cult&#8217;s leader&#8217;s name is Senya. Moreover, I think that Shuurei needed that wake up call but I still find it odd that she continuously treats Ryuuki as a child. There is no way she could have done so with Sakujun. It&#8217;s probably the familiarity which exists between Ryuuki and her which makes her treat him like that.</p>
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		<title>By: worldserpent@livejournal</title>
		<link>http://saiun.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/saiunkoku-5/#comment-42</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huh... Actually, I got the impression that Sakujun never tried to rape Shuurei. He just tried to get her in bed, but took no for an answer. Hmm... I&#039;d say on this point read the vol 11 summary.

I think we&#039;re supposed to think that Sakujun just does these bad things because... he&#039;s a bored rich kid. Yeah. But, his character did develop Shuurei&#039;s character, so I don&#039;t think he&#039;s a waste of space as a character. I haven&#039;t read the short story in which he does feature more prominently, so I really am not sure what the author is going to do with him from now on. I seriously don&#039;t think he&#039;s going to become a serious contender for Shuurei&#039;s hand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh&#8230; Actually, I got the impression that Sakujun never tried to rape Shuurei. He just tried to get her in bed, but took no for an answer. Hmm&#8230; I&#8217;d say on this point read the vol 11 summary.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re supposed to think that Sakujun just does these bad things because&#8230; he&#8217;s a bored rich kid. Yeah. But, his character did develop Shuurei&#8217;s character, so I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s a waste of space as a character. I haven&#8217;t read the short story in which he does feature more prominently, so I really am not sure what the author is going to do with him from now on. I seriously don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s going to become a serious contender for Shuurei&#8217;s hand.</p>
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