Spoilers have begun to show up on the boards. As always, take with a grain of salt. Also, I didn’t order the book, so I have no way of directly confirming things.
This post will continue to be updated if I find more spoilers.
Riou (Jr.) and Shuurei are at the Hyou clan’s house. [I gather from other spoilers that Riou took Shuurei there for her health] EDIT: Shuurei’s condition got bad, so Suou and Ensei agreed with Riou that taking her to the Hyou clan would be the best course of action.
There’s a plague of locusts, causing a lot of problems for Ryuuki. (And possibly other natural disasters, such as earthquakes)
Apparently Ryuuki and Jyuusan-hime have some scenes together.
Shuuei and Shiba Jin (Jin under his master’s orders) are going to try to go the Hyou clan’s house using Uu Uu’s powers, but instead they are sent there by Ryuuren.
Ryuuren apparently is the host of the Blue Immortal
Shuurei confronts Ruka. I’m confused about exactly what’s going on here, but I think Ruka tells Shuurei that she can live longer if she possesses someone else’s body, but Shuurei refuses.
Sakujun, who had previously come back to life thanks to the power of the Black Immortal, kills Hyou Eiki in Sa Province, because by killing her, he can totally destroy the small shrine(?) in Sa Province.
Although Ryuuki is worried about Shuurei, he cannot go after her, as she is only one official. Shuuei, though, decides to go and search for her.
I found some more spoilers:
After Shuurei leaves Kiyou, the spell Bara-hime used to extend Shuurei’s life (which also made her grow more slowly?) is broken. Shuurei is on the verge of death, but continues her work. Telling Suou and Ensei to carry on in her place, she faints and Riou as a last ditch effort takes her to the Hyou clan. Apparently she can only continue to live by possessing the body of someone else, as Ruka does. Ruka is also still after Shuurei’s body. Shuurei refuses to have either occur. Ryuuki and co. are beginning to suspect Yuushun, when all of a sudden a disastrous locust plague occurs, and Ryuuki must for some reason give Ou Ki military authority.
More spoilers (vague)
Shouka is said not to really do too much; neither is Seiga.
Seiran appears, but really doesn’t seem to do too much either.
A LOT of characters show up. Fans said that this really does seem like things are being cleared up, and the character intro pages at the front, which are normally two pages long, were three this time.
It seems like Sera (Kurou’s daughter) doesn’t appear, but we learn some stuff about her.
We learn the name of the governor of Kou (red) Province. It’s someone who has appeared before the the Gaidens, apparently.
Actually, Eiki might not be dead. The spoilers here are confusing. (Damn it, can people just be clear here?) It seems that Sakujun appears only for three or so pages anyhow.
It seems that Kouki might have some connection with the mother of some other character.
Reishin doesn’t appear this volume. Neither does Yuri.
Ou Ki hasn’t yet openly made his move yet.
It remains unclear what the heck Yuushun is really doing.
More spoilers:
The prologue (you know those famous Saiunkoku gloom and doom prologues) this time features: Ruka.
Yuushun seems to be overworking himself to the point of endangering his health, so Kouki is worried about him. (Kouki didn’t seem to like him very much before, but I guess you can never tell with these tsundere types)
Someone tells Riou Jr. that he “resembles someone.” We learn Riou Jr.’s mother’s name, Hien-hime (Not sure on the reading, but it means ‘swallow in flight’) This person seems to be known (if I’m reading the spoilers correctly) to both Kouki and Yuushun, and she was somehow important to Kouki (unclear whether she was a relative, a friend, or perhaps he was in love with her?)
Speaking of love, Yuushun and Rin have some kind of angsty scene which is full of Obvious Foreshadowing of Yuushun’s death (what, like there hasn’t been enough Obvious Foreshadowing of that already in the books?) Well, I guess it’s more obvious than foreshadowing if the person starts talking about it himself.
It seems the Blue Immortal is associated with time.
Ryuu Shibi is the governor of Kou Province? XD XD
The stuff about the Heki clan and Karin doesn’t advance much, although it seems Karin is still alive.
Ou Ki’s faction seems to have ended up controlling many of the offices in the districts (? not sure how the translate this. Counties?) of the provinces.
Commentary: Whoa! I was wondering who Riou’s mother is. Actually, I have my own ideas on this….
November 26, 2009 at 11:40 am
Drats! Sakujan is back? And he kills Eiki? Whoa.
Thanks for the update Charmian although like you said, I’ll take these spoilers with a grain of salt. The news about Ryuuren is somewhat surprising.
November 28, 2009 at 2:25 am
Yeah, I figured that Ryuuki would be unable to do anything about Shuurei himself. I always see him as being a “prisoner” to his throne. Shuuei therefore seemed to be the logical choice.
Regarding Sakujan, do you know what is the significance behind the shrine in Sa province? I’m missing something here.
November 28, 2009 at 2:35 am
I’m personally not really 100% sure what the significance of the shrine is; IIRC I think it has something to do with the Red Immortal’s two servants, who appeared after the shrine was opened.
November 28, 2009 at 10:29 am
Oh okay. Well, I hope Sakujun’s motive becomes clearer soon.
These updated spoilers are interesting. I did hear that Kiyou is protected from the Hyou clan’s magic so I wonder if in some way Shuurei’s life force or life preservation was tied to Kiyou. Then again, maybe not since Ryou Jr seemed quite sure that she wouldn’t live much longer.
While I expect that as long as Shuurei’s strength last she will continue to resist Ruka, I wonder what she plans to do when she begins to deteriorate considerably. I imagine that in a considerably weakened state she won’t be able to prevent Ruka from doing whatever she wanted with her body.
I hope Ryuuki suspecting Yuushun will lead to positive growth for him as an Emperor. It’s been continuously foreshadowed through various remarks by the characters that he has the potential to be great so I hope this is where his “major” growth begins. And how convenient it is that Ouki should be given control over the military. Seems like the chips are falling into place.
The spoilers are awfully silent on Seiran and Shouka. I wonder what they’re up to.
November 28, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Well, it seems he suddenly appears in the latter part of the book for only a very short scene.
It seems the reason she was taken to the Hyou clan was because their residence is the second most “pure” place after Kiyou.
I gather a lot about Ruka is revealed in this volume.
Actually, if anything Ryuuki seems to be at his nadir now…
Not a lot, apparently.
November 28, 2009 at 3:27 pm
I’m sort of amused that fans think that things are being cleared up and I’m more confused than ever about several things.
I guess as more spoilers come out things will become clearer for me.
By the way, where is Ryou Sr? He should be ecstatic to have Shuurei in his clutches.
About Ryuuki, yes, I imagine that he’s probably in despair right now both politically and personally (Shuurei) but I hope at least that the author will use these adversities to help him to grow. Finding out about Yuushun must be a real blow to him too.
You rock, Charmian! Thanks for all these spoilers.
November 26, 2009 at 12:49 pm
omg. i shouldn’t have found it surprising, but yet, i was still going “huh?!!” when i read abt Ryuuren. something’s gotta be wrong with that kid somewhere. then you realized suddenly that he’s somewhat similar to Yoh-sensei.
i hope at least that this spoiler is true.
oh gosh! i can’t wait to read the book!!
or at least know more about it!!
November 26, 2009 at 10:44 pm
THANKS,not shure if the above is true,but I’m excited for the next book!
November 27, 2009 at 8:19 am
SAKUJUN’S BACK?
November 27, 2009 at 8:36 am
So could this mean that the Hyos are helping Shuurei (or better to say Bara Hime)?
Thanks for updates
November 28, 2009 at 3:38 pm
@Celebriana (sorry, reached the reply limit for comments)
Well… Ryuuki had better pray that Yuushun is on his side. If not, Ryuuki is pretty screwed.
Riou Sr. is probably there, but as usual he doesn’t seem to be doing much.
November 28, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Yes, I keep on hearing that. Yuushun must really wield a lot of power. That’s why I hope that the author will give Ryuuki significant development in his role as an Emperor. If the story is entering its final arc, its about time that she started.
November 28, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Well, he IS the prime minister. Highest non-honorary position in the government. Basically everyone else who is on Ryuuki’s side is either low-ranking or not helpful politically. (with the exception of Shouka) Shuuei is a military official and is low-ranking, the same for Seiran, Kouyuu got demoted, Shou Taishi has done nothing for volumes (who knows what the heck he’s thinking).
It is high time, I’m afraid. I gather at this point things have gotten incredibly bad. In Chinese tradition, natural disasters are said to be a sign that the heavens disapprove of the emperor…
November 28, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Yeah, I know but I guess I thought since the Emperor appointed him, things could change if he’s found disloyal. But I suppose politics are never that simple.
The natural disaster equate to poor rule reminds me of Twelve Kingdoms.
Anyway, it looks like things are really bad all around for Ryuuki. I still think its imperative that he grows on his own though in his role as an Emperor. He needs to become a leader that his officials can respect.
November 28, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Depends… Actually, at this point I think Ryuuki might have to rely on Tantan, although Tantan actually doesn’t have a very high opinion of Ryuuki as a ruler.
Yeah, it’s a Chinese thing: natural disasters are said to occur as a result of the emperor’s lack of virtue, therefore them occurring is a sign that it’s okay to start a coup and make yourself emperor.
November 28, 2009 at 4:35 pm
With all this, do you think that Ryuuki’s growth has been grossly neglected by the author or do you think that it will come closer to the end of the series? It just seems like he’s never doing anything significant.
Ah well, I guess this will be Ouki’s chance to seize the throne. Oh, and in a case like that, if a coup works, would they try to depose of the Emperor? Also, don’t the Enlightened Ones have to approve of the new Emperor?
November 28, 2009 at 4:50 pm
@Celebrianna
Well, my personal opinion is, yes, Ryuuki’s growth has been grossly neglected by the author. If this were a fantasy-historical written for adults, I would bet that it would end in Ryuuki being deposed, and if he’s lucky, living in exile somewhere in the countryside. Since it is a light novel, though, things will be nicer, but the author excels at painting the characters into a corner.
Well, I don’t know about Saiunkoku, but in Chinese history there have been multiple dynasties. In Saiunkoku, it’s more like Japanese legend where the imperial line itself sacred, but since the Hyou clan is willing to approve of Ou Ki, he probably does have a shot. The Immortals don’t really seem to need to approve of the emperor, seeing as most of them really aren’t even there for most of Saiunkoku’s history. That role appears to fall to the Hyou clan.
November 28, 2009 at 5:04 pm
I’m glad that you also think that Ryuuki’s growth has been sorely neglected. I really like the character and I’m somewhat displeased to see how he’s handled. The lack of growth is sort of vexing.
Seiran is another character I like but his purpose has always been nebulous to me. He’s just there. At first he was Shuurei’s body guard but after that it just seems as though he doesn’t have any significant purpose.
Perhaps I’m just expecting too much.
November 28, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Well, I’m glad to see that someone agrees with me. I think my view of Saiunkoku is different from that of most of the English language fandom. XD
I think she did make some stabs at growth, and it is interesting, but it’s just going too slow.
Seiran seems to be one of her better written characters, but I also totally agree that he’s underused and really lacks a role in the story. You can especially see this with the recent books, where he basically does nothing.
I think this is because the author is making it up as she goes along. If she had been writing this with the end in mind, she would have introduced a lot of characters way earlier. However, on the positive side, I think she has grown a lot as a writer in terms of characterization and theme (the plot and the prose needs a lot of work though).
The Japanese fans complain about this a fair amount, but I think it’s fair to say that the tone and the nature of the series does change around the 10th book. I myself like the change, but it is true that it is inconsistent in tone and does kind of deny the parts that go before, especially the first arc.
November 28, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Hmmm! Interesting. Most of what I know about the series are from the anime, your summaries, and what other Saiunkoku fans have filled me in on and I feel the confusion. But I was honestly beginning to wonder if its because I’ve never read the novels in their entirety to understand the whole picture. However, in terms of character development for Ryuuki and even Shuurei (I find her single-mindedness a bit much) I felt it was and continues to be stagnant.
Maybe the reason I see things differently to the greater part of the English fandom is because I’m treating this series as “normal” books and applying the same expectations. This is my first experience with Josei so I really don’t know what to expect otherwise.
The theme of this story has always been elusive for me. What is it exactly? I’ve mentioned it before while discussing Saiunkoku with other fans but no one volunteered an opinion.
November 28, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Well, I don’t really think you miss out much if you haven’t read the novels up to vol 10. There’s the part about Sakujun, and some details, but it’s mostly the same. IMHO after vol 10 though, there’s kind of a departure because it doesn’t really show Ryuuki’s weakness as a ruler.
Shuurei has had some development, but it’s also very slow. Basically the last arc has been about her being acknowledged as an official by Kouki, and well, he has. The problem is IMHO is that the reader knows so much more about what’s going on than Shuurei and so she seems like she has no idea what’s really up. (Though that may change in this book) Another thing is that I’m convinced because of the genre the ending will be completely happy, but because I’m sort of reading it as “a novel” too (instead of “as a light novel”), some of the things that have happened to the other characters have been rather unhappy to the point where it almost feels like the truest ending may be a bittersweet one. (Although maybe I think this way because I’m fairly sure that some of my more liked characters are going to meet a dark fate)
Saiunkoku isn’t josei (which is not what the genre is really called anyhow). It’s shoujo (novel). It’s really for a high schoolerish audience, although in practice a LOT of the readers are older women, even in their forties, and up.
I think there isn’t one overarching theme, and I’m still not really sure what the author is saying because the conclusion hasn’t happened yet.
November 28, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Oh, so its not a josei. Good to know. I also don’t read Shoujo and “rarely” ever watch its animated counterpart so I’m still new to these types of books (and anime).
I really can’t see anything but a bittersweet ending but perhaps its because I don’t think that the series classification as light novels prevent the author from writing a bittersweet ending.
So, which of your more liked characters do you think will likely face a dark fate? I thought most of the “other” characters are pretty safe from dark fates except maybe Ou Ki. Right now Shuurei’s fate looks pretty dark but I guess since she’s the heroine she will most likely survive.
November 28, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Yeah, I mean, when I read the books I think the end is not going to be entirely happy, but when I consider the genre I think I would be a fool to think it wouldn’t. XD
Yuushun and Kouki. Yuushun’s health is bad, and he’s playing a dangerous game. Kouki seems to be allied to Ou Ki. (Though it is unclear)
If Shuurei weren’t the heroine, I would bet on her dying. On the other hand, there’s nothing that really says she needs to live, because the stuff about Kou excelling on the civil official side could just as well refer to other members of the Kou clan.
November 28, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I highly doubt that Shuurei will die. The worst I see happening to her is that she’ll have to take another body (I can’t get over this magic stuff …it seems so unreal even though this is all fiction)
Anyway, I really liked Yuushun. I didn’t find out about his duplicity until someone filled me in on that a couple weeks ago and I was sorely disappointed. I still hold out hope that he will “sincerely” ally with Ryuuki. I really liked him in the anime so I was floored when I heard that he’s playing two sides. I even went into a little rant about if there aren’t any “noble” men in the political arena in this story. The court somehow seems like a serpent’s nest with everyone plotting and forwarding their own agenda in secret.
I don’t know much about Kouki other than what I saw in the anime and what I heard about him apart from the anime. I don’t think he’ll end up with a dark fate though. Actually, I don’t even think that Ou Ki will end up with the darkest fate, which is death.
November 28, 2009 at 8:43 pm
I have a lot of issues with how the supernatural elements are handled in the story. I think they’re poorly integrated, not the author’s strong suit, and also generic. The worldbuilding is waaaay too slow. It would have been better for the author to tell a more realistic story. But then, I’m a fan of fantasy fiction so I have very high standards for how fantasy elements are handled.
Oh? You weren’t reading the summaries here? It’s kind of unclear whether Yuushun is for Ryuuki or not. IMHO he is because if he isn’t, I can’t see any possible way for Ryuuki to get out of this hole. XD
Well, aside from Ou Ki (and friends) and Yuushun, actually I don’t think the court is that much of a serpent’s nest. Many of the other officials don’t have a secret agenda (though they may have overt ones), and are concerned only with being a good official. It should also be noted that Ou Ki is a good official, and sincerely believes Ryuuki is unfit as king. However, very few officials are actually allied with Ryuuki, which is Ryuuki’s problem.
Yeah, it really remains to be seen. I’m curious about what is Ruka’s agenda beyond possessing Shuurei. She seems to also agree with Ou Ki that Ryuuki must be deposed, but I’m wondering if she also thinks Ou Ki should be king.
November 28, 2009 at 9:10 pm
I’m very new to Saiunkoku. I started it in September. I’ve read some of the summaries here and on Livejournal, I’ve watched the anime, and then I got a lot of the cohesive story from another fan who cleared up a lot of stuff for me.
Oh, I was talking about the officials that actually seem to wield a lot of power/influence. They all seem to have another agenda. I hope in the end Yuushun is on Ryuuki’s side. It seems that no man’s oath is good in this story. Look at Shuuei. Didn’t he accept Ryuuki’s flower and then had to genuinely pledge his allegiance on a second try.
About Ou Ki, I do understand that he feels that Ryuuki is an unfit king and he probably is. I blame the author for his non-existent growth.
Maybe Ruka has something against the Shi family and would be happy to see anyone else on the throne.
November 28, 2009 at 9:21 pm
@Celebrianna:
Huh, only September of this year?! Wow, that’s pretty quick.
Hmm, but that’s even true of a lot of the officials who do hold a lot of power. I think it’s mostly that we hear most from the ones who are plotting something. XD
Heh, true in Shuuei’s case.
The weird thing is that even though I sort of got involved in that debate over whether Ryuuki is selfish in his relationship with Shuurei on the Mangafox board, I actually am more interested in his life as king rather than his love life. XD
I think we will actually find out as more spoilers come out; the impression I get of Ruka though is that she’s more of a traditionalist and was offended by Senka’s radical ways, but this is rather just my interpretation. Hmm, I should have translated more scenes where Ruka talks..
November 28, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Yep, September of this year.
See, that’s why I don’t like politics. lol You don’t know who to trust. I think it worked out well enough for Youko in Twelve Kingdoms when she was in a similar situation to Ryuuki.
I share an equal interest in Ryuuki’s role as an emperor and his private life though I honestly wish that the author didn’t make him seem like a lovesick puppy. I think an author should be able to portray devotion without making it seem excessive. I mean, gah, moderation please. I think his role as king would have interested me far more than his private life if he didn’t have such an unhappy past and difficult path ahead. I can’t help but want to see him finally loved by someone because I do believe that love is an important part of life…even if its a luxury for the man who sits on a throne.
Oh, that peculiar thread at mangafox. I remember responding to that at length because I totally disagreed with that sentiment that Ryuuki is selfish or at least any more selfish than anyone who walks and breathes.
I’m sure Ruka’s agenda will be made clear soon. Isn’t the Hyou clan responsible for Senka’s death? I don’t know if I can trust the stuff I read on wiki but I read on there that they had sent a curse for Seien and Senka bore it instead.
November 28, 2009 at 10:16 pm
I recall Youko being a better ruler, though. I do enjoy political plots, however.
Yeah, moderation. I do feel bad for Ryuuki, but for me to ship something, there has to be effort on both sides. Otherwise I don’t feel that it’ll work out.
Ryuuki kind of has screwed things up, but I don’t think I would describe him as “selfish.” More as “unlucky” or “confused.”
Yeah, they are. Oh, did you read the short story that Nishitamachi translated? That’s where that occurs. The Hyou clan did send the curse, although it was more like they were hired to assassinate Seien and ended up getting Senka, which I’m sure suited them just fine.
November 28, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Yep, she was a better leader and that’s probably because the author wrote a stronger character. To me the problem with Ryuuki is the author and to be honest, as new as I am to this series, I keep vacillating between whether to continue with the story or not. After my experience with the Harry Potter book series where by the end of the series I wondered where the heck was the trio’s growth (aside from the problems of a convoluted non-sensible plot), I’m not too keen on following books where the writing seems inconsistent and character development seems inadequate.
And I totally agree with your stance on the Ryuuki-Shuurei relationship. That’s why I have a problem with the author emphasizing his feelings for her and nothing is happening on the other side. For now I support the relationship but if there continues to be little development on Shuurei’s side, it will probably eventually turn me off. After watching the anime I was all for the relationship but after I read up on the novel information that began to erode.
Now and again there are underdogs in literature that I support and Ryuuki fit the bill for me. So when I started the series, I was looking for his growth and I’m still looking for it. However, right now I don’t know if that’s a reasonable expectation.
No, I didn’t read any translated story of that section. I should look up the name. So then that wiki information was true then. I did wonder what made Senka sick.
November 28, 2009 at 10:56 pm
I think another reason why Ryuuki and Shuurei develop so slowly is because they’re the main characters. (Or more like, longstanding ones. Seiran, Shuuei, and Kouyuu have to some extent the problem of very slow chara development) Probably the reason for this is because the author realizes if she does resolve things, the series must end, so she needs to keep the romance plot on the backburner while doing other things. I guess in a lot of ways Saiunkoku is better seen as an ensemble plot. Although, if you are reading it’s probably a lot more tolerable than the anime because if Japanese is your native language, you can probably finish these books very quickly. (Saiunkoku is much less about Shuurei than HP is about Harry Potter. At least we’re not stuck within Shuurei’s viewpoint) BTW many Japanese readers think the books are badly written. XD
No, I think that is a reasonable expectation, because if he doesn’t, there’s nowhere for the books to go.
Yeah, someone else did translate the entire thing.
November 28, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Oh and about Youko, remember that she started out as a weak, annoying character who was everyone’s puppet because she did what ever people wanted so that they would like her. However, because the author actually gave her remarkable growth, she became a strong leader in the end. She changed A LOT. Even her looks and manner had changed. I was so extremely proud of her by the time she was able to confidently sit on the throne as Queen of Kei.
November 28, 2009 at 11:13 pm
@Celebrianna: Yeah, unfortunately, the writer of Saiunkoku isn’t as experienced or as skilled a writer, I think.
November 28, 2009 at 11:17 pm
lol I have to agree with those Japanese readers and yet, I’ve never even read the books in their entirety.
About Saiunkoku not being Shuurei’s point of view, its kind of funny that you said that because I’ve always felt that I don’t really know Shuurei. I know what her goals are and her qualities are but that’s about it. However, I somehow feel that I know Seiran and Ryuuki better. Hmm. I wonder why.
So, are there any other series out there that does the job right. I only stumbled upon Saiunkoku because i was looking for something to get into after Twelve Kingdoms. I watched Fushigi Yuugi this week and I couldn’t wait to finish it. The love story was getting quite overbearing after a while that I began to get fed up with it. But I like a few elements of the story.
November 29, 2009 at 12:47 am
Hmm, I felt I began to like Shuurei more in the later books, when she was exposed as naive and mistaken in some of the things she did. Maybe it’s because in these light novels the female protag is often supposed to be kind of a reader stand-in?
Depends what you mean by “do the job right”? If you like “story of a woman and her rise in her field” I would recommend Glass Mask (about a young girl acts in the theater). If you want shoujo fantasy, the go to work is probably Basara. (Which is a post-apocalyptic fantasy about a girl who becomes the ‘destined savior’ of the people of a future Japan. These are both best IMHO in their manga form). If you want Chinese fantasy…. hmm, I don’t really know. 12K is supposed to be the best one. I myself am a huge fan of Ravages of Time, which is kind of a retelling of Romance of the Three Kingdoms, but it is neither fantasy nor shoujo, tho it is great historical manhua (Chinese comics, kind of like manga).
November 29, 2009 at 9:46 am
I’m not really interested in Shoujo too much but I’ll try your recommendations. I’m more partial to fantasy-type stories with a solid storyline.
So, I saw that you guys raised a good point over at Mangafox that Ryuuki never stated why he wanted to be king. That’s another failing, I think, of the author’s. At a pivotal moment like that, we should have at least been acquainted with his reasoning. However, I’ve always assumed that because he felt bad about “running away,” he must have felt some sense of duty towards his crown. After all, regardless that he’s the last, he was really born to be an heir to the throne and I think in cases like these, there’s an inherent obligation within the person to honor his birthright whether he wants it or not. Okay, that’s just my take on it and I really think the author should have elucidated his change of heart.
Yuushun. Now I understand what you’re saying about “dark” fate but I really hope he doesn’t die. I do like him. And that new information about Ou Ki seems so….erm…or feels like such a “plot device.”
November 29, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Probably then you want shounen or seinen.
Once again, I think the culprit is wanting to draw things out. I can’t recall if I translated that part or not (you have seen the list someone compiled of all the translations, right?)
I actually don’t really agree completely. If you read the scene where he refused, Ruka explicitly told him that there were more qualified candidates, so there is no need for him to “honor his birthright,” especially as in Saiunkoku all candidates for the throne need to be qualified by birth anyhow. Therefore, I don’t think Ryuuki is obligated to be king because of duty towards his father or something (and frankly, knowing Senka’s personality, I’ll just this once praise Senka by saying that I don’t think Senka would want Ryuuki to be king if he wasn’t going to give it his all. This is the dude who told Ou Ki that if he didn’t like Senka’s rule, that he should try and take the throne from him.)
Ou Ki? You mean Kouki, right? And lol, Saiunkoku is full of plot devices. XD
November 29, 2009 at 6:40 am
Hien-hime (Not sure on the reading, but it means ’swallow in flight’
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is the kanji 飞燕?
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It seems the Blue Immortal is associated with time.
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what do you mean, “associated with time”?
November 29, 2009 at 6:50 am
Yes, it is. I’m not sure on the reading because sometimes in Japanese there can be multiple Chinese readings for kanji depending on various things.
Like how Bara-hime is associated with the weather, I’m guessing? But this is only a guess.
November 29, 2009 at 7:11 am
Speaking of Bara-hime and the weather, I have some interesting information for you. In Chinese folklore, there is a “heavenly court” up above, ruled by 玉皇大帝(Jade Emperor?), with all sorts of 仙 as his subjects. Among them, there are four who’re called 雨师,风伯,雷公,电母。So Bara-hime is the combination of thunder and lightning, hahaha.
November 29, 2009 at 7:12 am
Oh yeah, I saw that; the Japanese fans were talking about that.
November 29, 2009 at 7:35 am
and some more info about 玉环 飞燕
唐-杨玉环
汉-赵飞燕
these are 2 of the very famous empresses in Chinese history…
November 29, 2009 at 7:37 am
汉 in traditional Chinese is 漢
November 29, 2009 at 7:44 am
Heh, Yang Gueifei right? I did know who she was before. XD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Zhao_Feiyan
I hadn’t heard of Zhao Feiyan, but I see she has an infamous reputation… interesting.
November 29, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Who is Ryuu Shibi again?
November 29, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Character who appears in Unmei no Deai no Yoru
December 2, 2009 at 1:46 am
um,I have read all of the summarys except,(Unmei no Deai no Yoru)
does any one know where I can find it.THANKS.