Comments on: Anyone else who read the novels, vol 9 detail help?

By: Nik

Nik — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:22:29 +0000

Thank you both for figuring that out!

By: ruby

ruby — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:51:00 +0000

Yes, oftentimes the words means the same and can be recycled in Chinese trans.

By: charmian

charmian — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:02:13 +0000

Heh, I’m not sure, I’ll have to think about it. (What a great, liberal one would be)

Yeah, that’s what the Japanese is, really, existing rarely in the world. I wanted to think of something which would render that in English, but am not coming up w/ anything. XD But yeah, I think it’s a LOT easier to translate stuff from J–>C because the vocab is similar.

By: ruby

ruby — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:59:44 +0000

For the word “great”, what the Chinese trans uses is “稀世”, which means “existing rarely in the world”.

So what would an elegent, liberal translation possibly be?

By: charmian

charmian — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:48:01 +0000

I don’t think it’s a good translation myself. In fact, I think this is a mistranslation or a paraphrase, because in the original sentence there is nothing about the painting being famous etc. The Chinese translation here is much more close to the original Japanese.

Inelegant, very literal translation: “It would not be until later that this painting by the two great artists saw the light of day.”

great=actually is more like “rare”
saw the light of day (English expression, meaning to be made public/to be born)=”saw the eye of the sun”

By: ruby

ruby — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:38:10 +0000

Yeah, actually I have problems understanding the phrase “will be famous for many years to come”. What the Chinese says is that “It’s not until a long time later（or after? Which sounds better, or do both sounds awkward?） that the painting is made public.”

By: charmian

charmian — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:17:21 +0000

Ah, now I get it. In that scene, Ryuuki and Shuurei are walking together, and Heki Karin and Banri take up their pens and do tons of sketches; and then it says that as for when the picture painted by the two artists will see the light of day, that’s in the future?

However, I don’t think this is really any evidence as to what occurs in the future, because it seems that Karin and Banri finish a picture of the scene at the end of volume nine.

By: ruby

ruby — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:02:28 +0000

you do know that 幽谷 is the pseudonym of 歌梨, right?

It’s in the Epilogue of vol. 9. Right before Anju and Kouki’s conversation.

By: charmian

charmian — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:58:47 +0000

Yeah, but I mean, where is it in the novels? I mean, around where in novel 9 does it say this happened? Is it near the end or in the middle?

By: ruby

ruby — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:57:49 +0000

yes what the wiki says is true.